Spoiler Alert. This Fan Call In discussion is current with HBO’s Game of Thrones. If you are not, you may wish to avoid listening until you are, to keep from getting spoiled.
Otherwise Matt takes calls from johnmarius.net’s John (@JohnMarius), Gary (@gcswift2), bn4ia.com’s DJ Timm Hines (@DJTimmHines), and Steve (@MrJones_andMe) to discuss S4E03 “Breaker of Chains”.
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2 thoughts on “Podcast Winterfell 160: S4E03 Fan Call In Show”
Regarding the intent behind the Jaime/Cersei scene, I think it’s worth noting that the creators have publicly acknowledged it was meant to be non-consensual. David Benioff in his Inside the Episode feature stated that “you see Cersei is resisting [Jaime]. She is saying no, and he is forcing himself on her”. In spite of his comments to Alan Sepinwall about how the scene became consensual by the end, Alex Graves himself described the encounter as “forced sex” in an interview with The Hollywood Reporter, saying that “Jaime came in and raped [Cersei].”
I don’t know if this is a case of back-pedalling in response to fan reaction, since I’m not sure when the respective interviews occurred; but for now, I will take comfort in what seems to be the majority opinion on the creative team – that something that was portrayed as rape was in fact intended to be non-consensual. This gives me hope that it will be acknowledged as rape in future episodes, and the fallout will be dealt with accordingly.
Well then obviously at some point Graves wasn’t on the same page as the showrunners. You’ll note that on my twitter account far earlier than your posting here I acknowledged the ‘Inside the Episode’ put out by HBO where the show runners state it as being forced. So I acknowledge that maybe that is there intent on their part to make it forced – but that will actually I think make many book readers even more angry as the scene in the book is consensual sex. Either way – it is a failure on the show’s part to allow it to ever be sold in this way in Sepinwall’s article: “Well, it becomes consensual by the end, because anything for them ultimately results in a turn-on, especially a power struggle.”
I think the true test as to what was ACTUALLY intended will be if the story addresses it or dismisses it in future episodes.
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